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Post by midnightcat on Sept 13, 2017 9:49:50 GMT
Hi, I'm a new member here. Being a Michael Jackson fan since 1993 exposed me to a new plane of Diana's dark side, namely her emotionally (at least) abusive relationship with Michael since he was ten. Unfortunately, most of my fellow MJ fans ether deny such relationship existed, or glorify and romanticize it. If genders were reversed, they would be singing a different tune. But since Diana was a young attractive woman when Michael met her, she always gets the benefit of the doubt. During the last couple of years, I've seen a lot of YouTube videos of the two, and placing them on a timeline gives a very disturbing picture. When Michael was a child she repeatedly positioned herself as his "mother", yet acted very un-motherly around him. Her mode of behavior seemed predatory and envious at the same time. Then there's one recording of her from the early 80s admitting they were a couple. Now, you don't just brainwash a battered child into trusting you as a mother, then turn around and screw him, even if he's of age. If she was a man, she'd be accused of "grooming". And then she broke off their engagement and married a stranger, giving Michael a set of autoimmune diseases such as vitiligo and lupus that eventually killed him (these diseases can be triggered by a severe psychological trauma). That on top of the Oedipus complex she's already given him by screwing him in the first place. And the Stockholm syndrome she'd given him by constantly cheating on him and keeping him as a "side piece" during her relationships with Gene Simmons and other creeps. Even furthermore, by examining Michael's songs and videos that were clearly inspired by her, I got an impression that she could actually be his childhood pimp or an MK Ultra handler. For example, the female handler/abuser in the "Torture" video is clearly based on Diana, and the lyrics speak more or less by the protagonist being recruited by an elite whore-turned-pimp to be her heir/replacement, and her name and face triggering him (that's how mind control programming is supposed to work). I know Michael wasn't in the video, but he sang the verse I'm referring to, and was involved in writing the script. I advice you to watch the "Torture" video first, and then the "Who Is It" video and "Dreams" Pepsy commercial. Don't be fooled by the White actresses who play characters based on Diana and Michael himself. But even if you are not conspiracy minded, the existing documented material is enough to raise a lot of questions. Now, what makes me the most angry? The fact that she didn't support him during the pedo allegations. People saw it as an admission of HIS guilt. But I see it as an admission of HER guilt. Too close to home, bitch? And she was FIFTY when it happened, no "I was young and dumb" excuses at this point. She got a lot of opportunities to do right with Michael, but always chose to show herself as a coward to say the least. At the end of his life he avoided making eye contact with her. You can see it on Liza Minnelli's wedding. Probably he figured out she's a vampire and he can't continue to play Captain Save-a-Ho to his own pimp. Unfortunately, the damage was already done.
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Post by CeeCee on Sept 13, 2017 19:39:13 GMT
Interesting
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Post by The Truth on Sept 13, 2017 22:34:56 GMT
Hi, I'm a new member here. Being a Michael Jackson fan since 1993 exposed me to a new plane of Diana's dark side, namely her emotionally (at least) abusive relationship with Michael since he was ten. Unfortunately, most of my fellow MJ fans ether deny such relationship existed, or glorify and romanticize it. If genders were reversed, they would be singing a different tune. But since Diana was a young attractive woman when Michael met her, she always gets the benefit of the doubt. During the last couple of years, I've seen a lot of YouTube videos of the two, and placing them on a timeline gives a very disturbing picture. When Michael was a child she repeatedly positioned herself as his "mother", yet acted very un-motherly around him. Her mode of behavior seemed predatory and envious at the same time. Then there's one recording of her from the early 80s admitting they were a couple. Now, you don't just brainwash a battered child into trusting you as a mother, then turn around and screw him, even if he's of age. If she was a man, she'd be accused of "grooming". And then she broke off their engagement and married a stranger, giving Michael a set of autoimmune diseases such as vitiligo and lupus that eventually killed him (these diseases can be triggered by a severe psychological trauma). That on top of the Oedipus complex she's already given him by screwing him in the first place. And the Stockholm syndrome she'd given him by constantly cheating on him and keeping him as a "side piece" during her relationships with Gene Simmons and other creeps. Even furthermore, by examining Michael's songs and videos that were clearly inspired by her, I got an impression that she could actually be his childhood pimp or an MK Ultra handler. For example, the female handler/abuser in the "Torture" video is clearly based on Diana, and the lyrics speak more or less by the protagonist being recruited by an elite whore-turned-pimp to be her heir/replacement, and her name and face triggering him (that's how mind control programming is supposed to work). I know Michael wasn't in the video, but he sang the verse I'm referring to, and was involved in writing the script. I advice you to watch the "Torture" video first, and then the "Who Is It" video and "Dreams" Pepsy commercial. Don't be fooled by the White actresses who play characters based on Diana and Michael himself. But even if you are not conspiracy minded, the existing documented material is enough to raise a lot of questions. Now, what makes me the most angry? The fact that she didn't support him during the pedo allegations. People saw it as an admission of HIS guilt. But I see it as an admission of HER guilt. Too close to home, bitch? And she was FIFTY when it happened, no "I was young and dumb" excuses at this point. She got a lot of opportunities to do right with Michael, but always chose to show herself as a coward to say the least. At the end of his life he avoided making eye contact with her. You can see it on Liza Minnelli's wedding. Probably he figured out she's a vampire and he can't continue to play Captain Save-a-Ho to his own pimp. Unfortunately, the damage was already done. Digesting this plethora of interesting information. Thanks for offering your observations. Her issues could be deeper than some suggest. Let's continue the truth.
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Post by hector on Sept 13, 2017 23:14:26 GMT
This is all very interesting. Is it plausible? Sure. Did these things happened? Check it out!
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Post by Sammy7819 on Sept 14, 2017 2:54:04 GMT
Hi, I'm a new member here. Being a Michael Jackson fan since 1993 exposed me to a new plane of Diana's dark side, namely her emotionally (at least) abusive relationship with Michael since he was ten. Unfortunately, most of my fellow MJ fans ether deny such relationship existed, or glorify and romanticize it. If genders were reversed, they would be singing a different tune. But since Diana was a young attractive woman when Michael met her, she always gets the benefit of the doubt. During the last couple of years, I've seen a lot of YouTube videos of the two, and placing them on a timeline gives a very disturbing picture. When Michael was a child she repeatedly positioned herself as his "mother", yet acted very un-motherly around him. Her mode of behavior seemed predatory and envious at the same time. Then there's one recording of her from the early 80s admitting they were a couple. Now, you don't just brainwash a battered child into trusting you as a mother, then turn around and screw him, even if he's of age. If she was a man, she'd be accused of "grooming". And then she broke off their engagement and married a stranger, giving Michael a set of autoimmune diseases such as vitiligo and lupus that eventually killed him (these diseases can be triggered by a severe psychological trauma). That on top of the Oedipus complex she's already given him by screwing him in the first place. And the Stockholm syndrome she'd given him by constantly cheating on him and keeping him as a "side piece" during her relationships with Gene Simmons and other creeps. Even furthermore, by examining Michael's songs and videos that were clearly inspired by her, I got an impression that she could actually be his childhood pimp or an MK Ultra handler. For example, the female handler/abuser in the "Torture" video is clearly based on Diana, and the lyrics speak more or less by the protagonist being recruited by an elite whore-turned-pimp to be her heir/replacement, and her name and face triggering him (that's how mind control programming is supposed to work). I know Michael wasn't in the video, but he sang the verse I'm referring to, and was involved in writing the script. I advice you to watch the "Torture" video first, and then the "Who Is It" video and "Dreams" Pepsy commercial. Don't be fooled by the White actresses who play characters based on Diana and Michael himself. But even if you are not conspiracy minded, the existing documented material is enough to raise a lot of questions. Now, what makes me the most angry? The fact that she didn't support him during the pedo allegations. People saw it as an admission of HIS guilt. But I see it as an admission of HER guilt. Too close to home, bitch? And she was FIFTY when it happened, no "I was young and dumb" excuses at this point. She got a lot of opportunities to do right with Michael, but always chose to show herself as a coward to say the least. At the end of his life he avoided making eye contact with her. You can see it on Liza Minnelli's wedding. Probably he figured out she's a vampire and he can't continue to play Captain Save-a-Ho to his own pimp. Unfortunately, the damage was already done. LMAO, Lord have patience, BITCH, you are more a few fucking cards short of a full deck. LMAO again, and you've got the obese, insane old slack-assed SISSY Marv-Hector-TheTruth/DetroitLIES313 believing you crazed shit. Diana kept her young sons as far the fuck away from Wacko Jacko the drug addicted Pedofile as she could get them. He was a sick piece of shit that poured Clorox over his skin, needed dope to function and fucked around with 10 year old boys and you think this is Diana's fault you fucking whack job. LMAO
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Post by midnightcat on Sept 14, 2017 7:09:35 GMT
Oh, a dumb ass Diana fan has appeared. Darling, could you provide an explanation for your idol looking like a White woman on the cover of "Silk Electric"? Or telling a 10-year-old to hump her leg, like in the attached video? Don't throw stones in a glass house, dummy. After your idol and her partner in crime Berry will die and their dirt will come out, you'll need a good padded room.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk48X35NaQo
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Post by midnightcat on Sept 14, 2017 7:39:43 GMT
And if anything, Diana actually USED her kids to get Michael to talk to her after he gave her the boot for betraying him. Lisa Marie Presley did the same, BTW. These bitches are not slick. Here's a clip of Evan talking about Michael. He actually has a tattoo of Michael and said he WISHES TO BE HIS SON. Interesting, since his dad is supposed to be so wonderful and rich, uh? Diana taste in men has always been tragic. Imagine having creeps like Gene Simmons and Ryan O'Neal as your stepfathers. Poor girls! Ryan O'Neal hit on his own daughter Tatum on Farrah Faucet's funeral, because he didn't recognize her. www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1vsDzuds5Ywww.youtube.com/watch?v=dztr388x6uo^Here she admits that she introduced Michael to her boys, 6:30.
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Post by CeeCee on Sept 14, 2017 8:33:01 GMT
And if anything, Diana actually USED her kids to get Michael to talk to her after he gave her the boot for betraying him. Lisa Marie Presley did the same, BTW. These bitches are not slick. Here's a clip of Evan talking about Michael. He actually has a tattoo of Michael and said he WISHES TO BE HIS SON. Interesting, since his dad is supposed to be so wonderful and rich, uh? Diana taste in men has always been tragic. Imagine having creeps like Gene Simmons and Ryan O'Neal as your stepfathers. Poor girls! Ryan O'Neal hit on his own daughter Tatum on Farrah Faucet's funeral, because he didn't recognize her. www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1vsDzuds5Ywww.youtube.com/watch?v=dztr388x6uo^Here she admits that she introduced Michael to her boys, 6:30. I always wondered about that interview and questioned him. I think Ashlee is his beard.
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Post by Sammy7819 on Sept 14, 2017 9:00:55 GMT
Oh, a dumb ass Diana fan has appeared. Darling, could you provide an explanation for your idol looking like a White woman on the cover of "Silk Electric"? Or telling a 10-year-old to hump her leg, like in the attached video? Don't throw stones in a glass house, dummy. After your idol and her partner in crime Berry will die and their dirt will come out, you'll need a good padded room.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk48X35NaQo Look you dumb BITCH, Stop getting your panties all in a wad because I tell it just like it is. Michael Jackson wasn’t no innocent Messiah – he was a drug-addicted, perverted, pedophile who loved little boys and as for dirt coming out, go fuck youself with dildo dipped in Clorox.
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Post by Magical Froggy on Sept 14, 2017 13:35:05 GMT
And if anything, Diana actually USED her kids to get Michael to talk to her after he gave her the boot for betraying him. Lisa Marie Presley did the same, BTW. These bitches are not slick. Here's a clip of Evan talking about Michael. He actually has a tattoo of Michael and said he WISHES TO BE HIS SON. Interesting, since his dad is supposed to be so wonderful and rich, uh? Diana taste in men has always been tragic. Imagine having creeps like Gene Simmons and Ryan O'Neal as your stepfathers. Poor girls! Ryan O'Neal hit on his own daughter Tatum on Farrah Faucet's funeral, because he didn't recognize her. www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1vsDzuds5Ywww.youtube.com/watch?v=dztr388x6uo^Here she admits that she introduced Michael to her boys, 6:30. I always wondered about that interview and questioned him. I think Ashlee is his beard. When she was on American Idol she was all over the effeminate contestant. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. She may be sicker than she thought.
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Post by Trasheap on Sept 14, 2017 23:22:52 GMT
Now we are getting deeper with this woman. I believe this.My gut never lies.o
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Post by Sammy7819 on Sept 15, 2017 12:36:10 GMT
I always wondered about that interview and questioned him. I think Ashlee is his beard. When she was on American Idol she was all over the effeminate contestant. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. She may be sicker than she thought. No BITCH, the sick ones here are all of you trying to say Diana had something to do with pervert Jackson being FUCKED up. if you don’t think a dope addicted, skin bleaching, man-boy wearing eyeliner, lipstick, blouses, eyelashes and long black wigs had major issues, then I got a bridge to Brooklyn to sell you (cheap!) Oh yeah, he walked, talked, and looked like a girl, but his insane fans and greedy, trashy family all claim that he love pussy. LMAO. Michael Jackson used to dress as a woman and meet construction guys in Vegas for sex at cheap motels. Jackson loved to have his poop pipe rammed with a good thick dick. Wacko Jacko also had an insatiable appetite for underage boys. He was a gay, drug addicted, cross dressing Pedophile who should have been in jail years before he passed. His sleazy, greasy old Ho loving daddy Joe Jackson tried to beat the SISSY out of him but couldn't, and all his rotten old half crippled Mama Katherine wanted was Michael's money so she could dole it out to his worthless, lazy assed siblings. What a family of of fucked up TRASH. Michael Jackson was a sick, perverted, GAY, drug-addicted pedophile who should have been castrated at birth. Diana Ross had not a motherfucking thing to do with Jackson's sickness and disgusting perversions.
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Post by Trasheap on Sept 15, 2017 15:59:01 GMT
When she was on American Idol she was all over the effeminate contestant. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. She may be sicker than she thought. No BITCH, the sick ones here are all of you trying to say Diana had something to do with pervert Jackson being FUCKED up. if you don’t think a dope addicted, skin bleaching, man-boy wearing eyeliner, lipstick, blouses, eyelashes and long black wigs had major issues, then I got a bridge to Brooklyn to sell you (cheap!) Oh yeah, he walked, talked, and looked like a girl, but his insane fans and greedy, trashy family all claim that he love pussy. LMAO. Michael Jackson used to dress as a woman and meet construction guys in Vegas for sex at cheap motels. Jackson loved to have his poop pipe rammed with a good thick dick. Wacko Jacko also had an insatiable appetite for underage boys. He was a gay, drug addicted, cross dressing Pedophile who should have been in jail years before he passed. His sleazy, greasy old Ho loving daddy Joe Jackson tried to beat the SISSY out of him but couldn't, and all his rotten old half crippled Mama Katherine wanted was Michael's money so she could dole it out to his worthless, lazy assed siblings. What a family of of fucked up TRASH. Michael Jackson was a sick, perverted, GAY, drug-addicted pedophile who should have been castrated at birth. Diana Ross had not a motherfucking thing to do with Jackson's sickness and disgusting perversions. Call her Miss Ross knew all of the above and proceeded to have her mentor her sons. I just watched the video and saw Evan show his MJ tatoo and say he wished MJ was his father. Is this why Evan started plucking his eyebrows? What Mother would exploit her sons like that?
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Post by midnightcat on Sept 15, 2017 17:05:52 GMT
Sammy you dumb bitch, your idol's only fan base are gays so STFU. Before Michael met your idol there was nothing effeminate about him and he wasn't even her fan. He was James Brown's fan and was waiting to see him on TV, not her! She was the creep who sank her claws into him when he was 10 and didn't let him have his life, always pushing away all other women she saw around him. Your lies won't get you nowhere, MJ is still loved by hundreds of millions and Diana is only remembered by his fans who argue about her on his forums. Here's MJ before Diana: www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxgiKYzD7mQHere's Diana after she betrayed Michael and married Arne, pushing Elizabeth Taylor away from him: www.youtube.com/watch?v=s35o82CDhTk
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Post by Daffy on Sept 15, 2017 18:54:47 GMT
When she was on American Idol she was all over the effeminate contestant. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. She may be sicker than she thought. No BITCH, the sick ones here are all of you trying to say Diana had something to do with pervert Jackson being FUCKED up. if you don’t think a dope addicted, skin bleaching, man-boy wearing eyeliner, lipstick, blouses, eyelashes and long black wigs had major issues, then I got a bridge to Brooklyn to sell you (cheap!) Oh yeah, he walked, talked, and looked like a girl, but his insane fans and greedy, trashy family all claim that he love pussy. LMAO. Michael Jackson used to dress as a woman and meet construction guys in Vegas for sex at cheap motels. Jackson loved to have his poop pipe rammed with a good thick dick. Wacko Jacko also had an insatiable appetite for underage boys. He was a gay, drug addicted, cross dressing Pedophile who should have been in jail years before he passed. His sleazy, greasy old Ho loving daddy Joe Jackson tried to beat the SISSY out of him but couldn't, and all his rotten old half crippled Mama Katherine wanted was Michael's money so she could dole it out to his worthless, lazy assed siblings. What a family of of fucked up TRASH. Michael Jackson was a sick, perverted, GAY, drug-addicted pedophile who should have been castrated at birth. Diana Ross had not a motherfucking thing to do with Jackson's sickness and disgusting perversions. Call her Miss Ross is playing Indian Reservation Casinos, Hard Rock Casinos, and Motel 6 Ballrooms yelling her lyrics and hitting flat notes making her gowns out of the Days Inn drapes and stealing the mops from environmental services dying them black and wearing them as wigs. The little girls of SD argue her career is just fine thank you very much and she looks and sounds great while most people are wondering if she is carrying twins for Tracee her beer gut is so big. Too lazy to learn a new show she croaks her way through the same show for four decades meanwhile the little girls of SD ooh and aah over Bluebrock's latest yarn that Pharrell Clive Davis Justin Timberlake are begging and pleading to work with her but Diana declines because she doesn't want to tour for a new release. Lmfao. Bluebrock is about to reveal that whitney's bodyguard soundtrack was wriiten for Diana but she turned it down in 1979 because quincy was scheduled to produce her next album. Lmfao. If that isn't sick fans i don't know what is.
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