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Post by mpn1jco on May 19, 2017 15:58:24 GMT
Here are Stephanie Mills' upcoming dates: Jun 02 NYCB Theatre at Westbury Westbury, NY Jun 30 Township Auditorium Columbia, SC Aug 25 Birchmere Alexandria, VA Aug 26 Fabulous Fox Theatre Atlanta, GA Sep 07 The Orpheum Theater Memphis Memphis, TN
These are the types of venues Ross plays. Stephanie Mills has been touring non-stop forever, the same as Ross. Like Ross, Stephanie Mills' days of a recording artist are over and she has to support herself by touring. Stephanie Mills does solid business without advertising. Those numbers quoted by MotownManiac are way off. Notice Ross is still driving the beat up car year after year, does her own marketing etc. Ross is out in public all the time and no one cares at all! The days of having a staff, limousines, helicopters, and mansions are OVER! In the world of a Soulful Detroit Ross Clown, Ross is having one triumph after another, booked solid. The reality is this bitch is barely breaking even.
I am using Stephanie Mills as an example. I could easily use any number of the working gals out there on the road singing their lungs out every night to put cabbage on the table!
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Post by hector on May 19, 2017 16:28:25 GMT
Here is Stephanie Mills' upcoming dates: Jun 02 NYCB Theatre at Westbury Westbury, NY Jun 30 Township Auditorium Columbia, SC Aug 25 Birchmere Alexandria, VA Aug 26 Fabulous Fox Theatre Atlanta, GA Sep 07 The Orpheum Theater Memphis Memphis, TN
These are the types of venues Ross plays. Stephanie Mills has been touring non-stop forever, the same as Ross. Like Ross, Stephanie Mills' days of a recording artist are over and she has to support herself by touring. Stephanie Mills does solid business without advertising. Those numbers quoted by MotownManiac are way off. Notice Ross is still driving the beat up car year after year, does her own marketing etc. Ross is out in public all the time and no one cares at all! The days of having a staff, limousines, helicopters, and mansions are OVER! In the world of a Soulful Detroit Ross Clown, Ross is having one triumph after another, booked solid. The reality is this bitch is barely breaking even.
I am using Stephanie Mills as an example. I could easily use any number of the working gals out there on the road singing their lungs out every night to put cabbage on the table!
You nailed it! Even Dionne Warwick, Mary Wilson and Roberta Flack brought their "Legends Tour" to Wembley Arena in London and sold out. Diana Ross is a has-been that needs to go somewhere and sit down and stop embarrassing herself.
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Post by hector on May 19, 2017 16:29:57 GMT
The difference between Stephanie Mills and Diana Ross is Stephanie can sing, Ross cannot which is why she changes to so many costumes just to deflect.
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Post by supremeboy on May 19, 2017 17:35:37 GMT
WATCH THIS AND WEEP BITCH!
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Post by LA Drumner on May 19, 2017 17:44:20 GMT
WATCH THIS AND WEEP BITCH! Most likely funded by George Soros.
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Post by hector on May 19, 2017 19:20:32 GMT
WATCH THIS AND WEEP BITCH! What? Watch a freak show about the Queen of Freaks. Thanks but I'll pass.........
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Post by hector on May 19, 2017 19:21:20 GMT
WATCH THIS AND WEEP BITCH! Most likely funded by George Soros. LOL!!!
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Post by mpn1jco on May 19, 2017 19:40:22 GMT
Most likely funded by George Soros. LOL!!! I posted before that many of her fans/tribe were at EVERY show in NYC and this video confirms that. It has to be realized that she has a fanatical following that will go to all of her shows regardless of where she is appearing. Therefore, she is not playing to as many people as you may think.
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Post by hector on May 19, 2017 19:49:49 GMT
I've said for years now that Diana Ross has been lowered to the status of a "cult artist" with a cult following similar to the Grateful Dead and it's "Dead Heads". They know when and where she's going to be performing, so that helps eliminate the need to advertise her shows. They know all about the many flop CD's and singles that the public has never heard or even cares about. They don't insist that Ross update her shows because they are going to attend regardless and worship her. That glaring comparison to Ross' Vegas Show and the one Cher presented should tell you everything you need to know about Ross' current D-list status.
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Post by Jimi LaLumia on May 20, 2017 1:56:14 GMT
Poor Diana Ross. And also Poor Marvin Davis known here as Hector.
First, Berry gave all the rare promos to people he knew, like Kam's relatives; and skipped over Marvin. This left Marv seething with rage as he felt he was owed a lot of Motown material after donating much his spare time at the Motown Historical Museum in Detroit.
Then Diana put him out of her concert in Colorado in the 1980's.
Then someone reported his hate filled musings to Mary Wilson and she told him to leave her and Diana out of the cheap talk. Mary wants nothing to do with Marvin Davis.
So, with some bitterness and a lot of sucking up, Marv now pays Ralph and Lowell's forum a monthly donation to keep him in good graces at Soullful Detroit. It's just like protection money and it stops him ffrom getting banned again.
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Post by peacenharmony on May 20, 2017 21:13:23 GMT
Diana Ross is a unique tour book in that she generally requires no advertising or promotion. She always uses a promoter who, if they see the need, will advertise. Diana Ross has never run an ad or commercial for her shows - all of that is done by the promoter if they want to pay for it. This is how it's worked: CAA sends out a blast that "Diana Ross will be available here___________ during this time span__________." They include her standard rider and minimums, then get offers from promoters all over the area involved for a specific amount, guarantee and venue of their choosing. In the initial email blast, she may sometimes include her druthers for a specific venue, but not often. She then chooses her itinerary based on the deals she is offered, informs CAA and let's them handle the legalities and any negotiations she may require or attempt. Her standard deal is a guarantee - generally 135k and up (depending on venue size & locale) plus 85% of the net after that amount. On rare occasions, to fill in an empty date or for personal reasons, accept a lower guarantee. The promoter signs the contract, sends half of the guarantee to CAA as a deposit, and goes to work selling the show. Just before showtime, Miss Ross is personally presented with the balance due including the percentage. Occasionally, should there be a discrepancy, it will be handled afterwards. She generally requires certified checks at the venues, but, knowing the hassle it is for the promoter after banking hours, will accept a personal check once a firm, trusting relationship is established. This is rare. Aretha and sometimes Patti require cash, and Aretha has been known to demand additional funds at the last minute or will not go on. Casinos often just offer a flat rate based on their personal experience with the artist and casino business is strictly monitored on show nights. Artists that bring in $$$ at the tables, are brought back as often as possible regardless of box office take. The following is hearsay, but from a generally reliable source: She does not tour Europe, I am told, because during talks for summer 2010 tour, the promoter said something(s) heinous to Miss Ross about MJ shortly after his passing and she evaporated him - and, I am told, once that happens, you never get a second chance with her. Perhaps Bluerock knows more about this. I worked for two promoters when I was at Illinois State and maintained those contacts but I have no real, verifiable, major insight about Europe. VERY interesting info, MM - especially about Ross' continued loyalty to MJ. In spite of what a sad few may say, a performer does not retain/maintain the popularity Diana does without being a sure thing for both promoters and audience
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Post by TheMotownManiac on May 20, 2017 21:18:43 GMT
Diana Ross is a unique tour book in that she generally requires no advertising or promotion. She always uses a promoter who, if they see the need, will advertise. Diana Ross has never run an ad or commercial for her shows - all of that is done by the promoter if they want to pay for it. This is how it's worked: CAA sends out a blast that "Diana Ross will be available here___________ during this time span__________." They include her standard rider and minimums, then get offers from promoters all over the area involved for a specific amount, guarantee and venue of their choosing. In the initial email blast, she may sometimes include her druthers for a specific venue, but not often. She then chooses her itinerary based on the deals she is offered, informs CAA and let's them handle the legalities and any negotiations she may require or attempt. Her standard deal is a guarantee - generally 135k and up (depending on venue size & locale) plus 85% of the net after that amount. On rare occasions, to fill in an empty date or for personal reasons, accept a lower guarantee. The promoter signs the contract, sends half of the guarantee to CAA as a deposit, and goes to work selling the show. Just before showtime, Miss Ross is personally presented with the balance due including the percentage. Occasionally, should there be a discrepancy, it will be handled afterwards. She generally requires certified checks at the venues, but, knowing the hassle it is for the promoter after banking hours, will accept a personal check once a firm, trusting relationship is established. This is rare. Aretha and sometimes Patti require cash, and Aretha has been known to demand additional funds at the last minute or will not go on. Casinos often just offer a flat rate based on their personal experience with the artist and casino business is strictly monitored on show nights. Artists that bring in $$$ at the tables, are brought back as often as possible regardless of box office take. The following is hearsay, but from a generally reliable source: She does not tour Europe, I am told, because during talks for summer 2010 tour, the promoter said something(s) heinous to Miss Ross about MJ shortly after his passing and she evaporated him - and, I am told, once that happens, you never get a second chance with her. Perhaps Bluerock knows more about this. I worked for two promoters when I was at Illinois State and maintained those contacts but I have no real, verifiable, major insight about Europe. VERY interesting info, MM - especially about Ross' continued loyalty to MJ. In spite of what a sad few may say, a performer does not retain/maintain the popularity Diana does without being a sure thing for both promoters and audience She has a very good rep in the industry: no nonsense, very professional and reliable - no demands not included in the rider - in short: the ideal booking. This is a change from the early - mid 80's when she was considered a holy terror, but this may have been due to her taking over her career and tour management as she mellowed a lot by the end if the decade. Also, however, she is not known for her friendliness as she rarely speaks to or even meets the promoter other than the absolute minimum required per gig. Not all promoters want to meet or hang with the artist, but they are SOL with Miss Ross in that respect as she mixes with as few people as possible.
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Post by thanxal on May 23, 2017 19:21:23 GMT
Poor Diana Ross. And also Poor Marvin Davis known here as Hector. First, Berry gave all the rare promos to people he knew, like Kam's relatives; and skipped over Marvin. This left Marv seething with rage as he felt he was owed a lot of Motown material after donating much his spare time at the Motown Historical Museum in Detroit. Then Diana put him out of her concert in Colorado in the 1980's. Then someone reported his hate filled musings to Mary Wilson and she told him to leave her and Diana out of the cheap talk. Mary wants nothing to do with Marvin Davis. So, with some bitterness and a lot of sucking up, Marv now pays Ralph and Lowell's forum a monthly donation to keep him in good graces at Soullful Detroit. It's just like protection money and it stops him ffrom getting banned again. This is good news. I certainly hope you're correct. It explains so much hate and vitriol.
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Post by Navajo Trail on May 29, 2017 13:50:58 GMT
Poor Diana Ross. And also Poor Marvin Davis known here as Hector. First, Berry gave all the rare promos to people he knew, like Kam's relatives; and skipped over Marvin. This left Marv seething with rage as he felt he was owed a lot of Motown material after donating much his spare time at the Motown Historical Museum in Detroit. Then Diana put him out of her concert in Colorado in the 1980's. Then someone reported his hate filled musings to Mary Wilson and she told him to leave her and Diana out of the cheap talk. Mary wants nothing to do with Marvin Davis. So, with some bitterness and a lot of sucking up, Marv now pays Ralph and Lowell's forum a monthly donation to keep him in good graces at Soullful Detroit. It's just like protection money and it stops him ffrom getting banned again. This is good news. I certainly hope you're correct. It explains so much hate and vitriol. I will be attending the Soulful Detroit Awards and the word is that you will receive "Little Girl of Soulful Detroit Award" and RanRan79 is the runner up. Both of you will receive a years supply of PINK PANTIES. Congratulations - well deserved and earned!
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Post by tonyturner on May 29, 2017 14:01:46 GMT
This is good news. I certainly hope you're correct. It explains so much hate and vitriol. I will be attending the Soulful Detroit Awards and the word is that you will receive "Little Girl of Soulful Detroit Award" and RanRan79 is the runner up. Both of you will receive a years supply of PINK PANTIES. Congratulations - well deserved and earned!
Congratulations! You both deserve the honor! Keep whining, gossiping in PMs, acting like bitches, complaining to your hard working moderator, and making sure Soulful Detroit is a Diana Ross Tribute Site Honestly, I would have chosen Vgalindo. Roberta75 doesn't qualify I understand because he has a penis.
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